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CONVINCE OR CONFUSE


CONVINCE OR CONFUSE

 

Retd. Prof. & H.O.D., O & G,
V.S.S. Medical College, Burla
Dean, I.M.S. & SUM Hospital, Bhubaneswar
Pro. V.C. , SOADU, Bhubaneswar
President, ISOPARB

   

 

“The art & science of asking questions is the source of all knowledge”

-Thomas Berger-

 

“An average friend flatters on your face,

A good friend praises at your back,

A true friend points out your short comings,

So that you can improve in future”

-Self-

 

It was the Pre-Lunch Session dt. 14.3.15 in the 31st National ISOPARB Conference, Bengalure .Topic of panel discussion was “IUGR – decision to deliver when enough is enough”. The topic was quiet thrilling. The moderators & panelists were highly knowledgeable, the hall was full with over enthusiastic audience. It was a war like situation as if the medical science is challenging the nature. Therefore, I was motivated to attend this session.

            The moderator started the motion quoting “If you can’t convince, confuse.” which reflects her negative mindset. The panel discussion started with an interesting case history, “ A case with 30 weeks gestational age, hypertensive (BP 150/100mmHg) severely pale (Hb% - 6gm%), Fundal Height 24 wks, AFI – 6 & Urine albumin 1 plus (+).

How to approach ? The audience was quite excited looking to the complexity of the case & their expectation rose quite high to know the definite solution of this complicated problem. 

 

WHAT WERE THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE AUDIENCE ?

 

  • Whether Pre Eclampsia (PE), anemia & IUGR (remote from term) inter linked ?
  • In such a case how to evaluate?
  • If a delivery is warranted ( Vaginal Birth / CS), how to counsel & plan for the delivery ?
    • What is the role of the Mother ,Anesthesiologist , Neonatologist , Physician & Obstetrician?
    • If delivery is delayed what is the risk & benefit to the mother & fetus ?
  • If delivered immediately what is the risk & benefit ?
  • The other following issues need to be addressed
    • Post natal management of mother & neonate including NICU treatment.
    • Anticipated complications(immediate & long-term) of both the mother, neonate & chance of recurrence in future pregnancy.

 

  • Cost effectiveness of any type of management.
  • Social issues related to too much premature IUGR babies.
  • Medico-legal issues related to decision making & management.
  • Ethical issues in delivering a premature baby.
  • What is the evidence based practice in such a case & that too in Indian scenario?
  • The discussion should be scientific, informative, interactive & humorous in an electrifying atmosphere.
  • Role of audience in such interaction should have been well defined.

 

 

 

THE REAL PANEL DISCUSSION:

  • Before the panelists started their plan how to evaluate this case , much time was taken on the discussion like,
    • Discrepancy in fundal height
    • Prediction of PE
    • Prevention of PE
    • Low dose aspirin in prevention of PE which were not necessary for the presented case. Much time was wasted before the real issue.

 

Then came the real discussion only for few minutes like choice of antihypertensive, treatment of anemia (without evaluation), fetal monitoring etc. On these discussions almost 55 minutes passed. Then the moderator was in a hurry to proceed to the next case. In the mean time the audience has started showing their displeasure the way the discussion was heading. Some of them had started grumbling but no one was feeling comfortable to challenge the moderator. One delegate from the audience stood up & raised a question, “Madam! From your discussion you have successfully confused me. I couldn’t know what is the clear-cut take-home message for this case”. The moderator took it by surprise & replied to the member to discuss his problems at the end of the session.

      At the end of the discussion the moderator wanted to know why the delegate was confused? Then the delegate replied that the discussions on that particular case was not up to his expectations, so he was confused. The moderator tried to explain the line of management of this case, but the delegate was not satisfied &  jokingly commented, “ If my daughter with such problems was being treated by you then I would have taken her to some other hospital”, which was applauded by the houseful of audience.

      The moderator instead of taking this comment sportively, suddenly lost her temper and asked the delegate his name & the place from which he hails. The delegate told his name & the place. Then the moderator passed a derogatory comment on his place; “What happens at your place is known to me. If you can’t treat such cases in your place, refer them to Bengaluru & we will take care”. The delegate without protesting politely kept quiet.

      The story did not end there. At the end of the panel when the delegate went to shake hands with the moderator she refused to do so, saying, “ From the core of my heart I am telling you, that I cannot shake hands with you”. She even told to some of her friends & colleagues pointing her finger towards the same delegate, “This fellow is misguiding the audience”.

At the end of this short story few questions arose in the mind of the audience which need to be addressed :

WAS THE DELEGATE AT FAULT?

 

  • What is the harm if a delegate raises a valid issue?
  • Is it a blunder on the part of the delegate to ask a question to the moderator which is not palatable to her?
  • Is he at fault to express his dissatisfaction over the discussion which is a freedom of speech & expression?
  • Has he committed any crime so that he will be humiliated & that too his work place?

           

WHY DID THE MODERATOR GET UPSET?

  • The moderator is the captain & leader of the team. She should have the exemplary qualities e.g. knowledge, patience, tolerance, broadmindedness, appreciation etc. She should have the personality & attitude not only to guide the panelists but also to control the tempo of the audience.
  • The moderator should anticipate some bouncers from the audience & she should be well prepared either to duck or to hook it for a six, then only the session will be enjoyable. Instead, if she loses temper & then in the next ball she may be out.

In this story, in my opinion the moderator lost her temper & committed two blunders:

  1. Is it fair to hit someone under one’s belt? The moderator’s derogatory comment on the workplace (motherland) is highly deplorable. No civilized person can tolerate it. Because the delegate was generous he kept quiet. The suggestion of the moderator to refer such critical cases to Bangaluru for better treatment exposes her complexity & ignorance of demography of India e.g India does not live in metropolis like Bangalore but India lives in villages where majority of the mothers are poor & not health conscious.
  2. In the second episode, refusing to shake hands & passing an adverse comment on the delegate that he was misguiding the audience was totally uncalled-for. In this situation the moderator should have shown her generosity & greatness by appreciating the question of the delegate. The moderator instead devalued herself by insulting the delegate in the public.

 

 

CONCLUSION:  Medical science is vast & fast expanding. Therefore there is no place of dogmatism & vindictiveness in it. Our brain should cope with the expanding science & our mind shouldn’t be too narrow to appreciate this. In the above episode the treatment received by the delegate from the moderator is open to all readers for judgment but the approach of the panel discussion should have been “controversies & consensus” rather than “convince & confuse”. Where expectations are high frustration is the rule.

After writing this short story I feel to quote Swami Vivekananda;

“You can like me or hate me,

In both ways you are doing a favor,

                                       If you like me, I am in your hearts,

If you hate me I am in your minds”

 

Interestingly the delegate was the author himself.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Viewers Comments


  • Dr Sharmistha Ganguly

    A simple incident of life taught so many lessons to each one of us.. Intellect people like prof G Sahoo depicted the incident so well that it became a learning point for us...we attend so many CME n Conference but never thought in this way ..that's the reason he is such a great teacher n mentor.. I chose Gynec by chance but he as my teacher in PG dys made me passionate abt the subject... He was so punctual n perfect about the rounds n basic things like B.P measurement ourselves..I still remember practice this 2 basic things n they have immensely helped me in establishing my career. He had prepared generations who r leading practitioners . He is always behind the scenes whenever u find a successful orator and a successful gynec practitioner . I m not someone with name n fame but I m carrying this profession with dignity and trust bec my foundation was laid by Prof G Sahoo.

    Jun, 23, 2022
  • Shwetasmini Puhan

    Very wonderful article by Prof Dr. Gangadhar Sahoo. Very inspiring and with such deep meaning. Thank you sir for sharing this.

    Jun, 22, 2022
  • Dr Gangadhar Sahoo, EX DEAN IMS AND Ex Pro V C SOA University

    I am extremely thankful to all the Esteemed readers of Literary Vives who are getting time to read and post their valuable comments . Their enthusiasm, appreciation and criticism will be my inspiration to do better in future. My earnest request to the readers to forward the Literary Vives to their near and dear ones not only to to read and comment but also to contribute articles, anecdotes, poems etc to enrich the Literary Vives. Wish all readers good health and good luck.

    Jun, 22, 2022
  • Dr Gangadhar Sahoo, EX DEAN IMS AND Ex Pro V C SOA University

    I am extremely thankful to all the Esteemed readers of Literary Vives who are getting time to read and post their valuable comments . Their enthusiasm, appreciation and criticism will be my inspiration to do better in future. My earnest request to the readers to forward the Literary Vives to their near and dear ones not only to to read and comment but also to contribute articles, anecdotes, poems etc to enrich the Literary Vives. Wish all readers good health and good luck.

    Jun, 22, 2022
  • Rachita sarangi

    Once again wonderful narration of a real scenario of many conferences ..love the lines "controversies and consensus" rather than "convince or confuse"....

    Jun, 18, 2022
  • Sneha Chatterjee

    Wonderful article by Dr. Prof. Gangadhar Sahoo Sir. Thankyou so much for sharing this with us, Sir!

    Jun, 17, 2022
  • Prerana Chatterjee

    It is a beautiful piece of article sir, really inspiring & powerful. Thank you so much for sharing this with us ,sir !

    Jun, 15, 2022
  • Nachieketa Khamari Sharma

    Initially I was a bit frightened by lot of medical terms, but kept my cool and went on. What a surprise, the generous delegate is none other than Prof GS! Wonderfully crafted

    Jun, 14, 2022
  • Dr Subhashish Das, Chief Medical Supdt

    A very practical situation when narrow vision of the moderator destroys a potentially fruitful group discussion.... wonderfully presented by Dean Sir

    Jun, 13, 2022
  • Abhijit Pati

    Convince or Confuse , what a magic article. Very creative and deep meaning. Enjoyed fullest to see the deeper meaning and articulation. Continue to give such wonderful piece.

    Jun, 13, 2022
  • Dr Hemanta

    Thank you very much sir for your beautiful presentation in this article. I highly appreciated your interpretation. In our noble profession each and every health professionals should give due respect if any comments / queries arise out of any discussion even if the participants are sweeper or any other types. Once again congratulations for your nice article... Keep sharing...

    Jun, 12, 2022
  • Karabi Konar Sanyal

    The issue wss very rightly addressed by Prof. Sahoo sir. One should always respect the views of the person standing in front. Only then we can broaden our knowledge professionally and also spiritually. A person with high IQ but less SQ is of little use to the society.

    Jun, 12, 2022
  • Wrik Dey

    Sir truly insightful and touching really ???? Was extremely inspiring and such wonderfully placed sir

    Jun, 11, 2022
  • Dr Antara Kunwar

    A very well put piece of work by the dean sir. Looking forward for more such articles.

    Jun, 11, 2022
  • Dr Pratibha Jena

    Very beautiful article by Respected Prof Gangadhar Sahoo Sir from real scenario which depicts we need to have a positive and open set of mind...be a good human being first

    Jun, 11, 2022
  • Akankshya

    Wonderful narration by Prof. DR. GANGADHAR SAHOO.

    Jun, 11, 2022
  • Richa Mahapatra

    A very well written article, sir. Thank you for sharing this .

    Jun, 06, 2022
  • Dr. A. P. Tapaswini

    Namaskar Sir. Very beautifully perceived and composed. I loved your understanding of situation and a calm disposition. Only calmness and open to learning attitude can take medical science farther. Someone said rightly -NAMRANTI PHALINO BRUKSHYA NAMRANTI GUNINO JANAH which means that the fruit-bearing branches of a tree bow down with humbleness, similarly the most wise person whose head are full of knowledge can't bear the weight and bows down in humbleness. Thank you sir.

    Jun, 05, 2022
  • Dr Renuka Sahu

    Wonderful narrative sir. Humility facilitates learning, while arrogance leads to sickness of mind and incorrect behaviour and hindrance for learning. In our profession our mind should be open for continuous learning. Thanks for sharing sir. May God give you very happy, healthy, peaceful and blessed long life.

    Jun, 05, 2022
  • Dr suman sinha

    My regards and appreciation goes to Dr Gangadhar sahu sir..it was a true narration of a real incidence...very well presented..I admire your observational skill and bold interpretation.all your aricles has a beautiful messase...be a good human being first????????

    Jun, 04, 2022
  • Nitu Mishra

    Wonderful writeup sir... I am proud to be your student not only you taught me ABC of OBGY sir its because you taught me ABC of my professional life..... I see as my mother in my professional life. I learnt from you the habit of asking questions and learning from questioning... Taking all comments in sporting spirit and making ourself worth to answer the questions of audience and satisfy their query is a great task. Getting irritated on valid doubts shows the lack of knowledge in the particular field. But unfortunately most of the CME and conferences have become a stage to satisfy the ego of learned fools and people like us who are in learning stage are hardly learning any thing from these type of gatherings. People should learn the way of communication and teaching an adult gathering or else the conferences of our field will soon turn into nothing but a glamorous gatherings... Sir our generation need a guide like you keep guiding us.

    Jun, 04, 2022
  • Komal Singh

    Wonderful elaboration of real scenario of discrimination. Instead of being humble and receptive, the moderator got furious at the questions raised. We need to take everything in our stride and be polite at th same time.....this is the essence of a great doctor....thank you so for keeping me motivated.

    Jun, 04, 2022
  • Pawan Kumar Modi

    Though, it is the personnel experience of the author, whom I have highest category of the respect, but in the present world, these are common incidents. We must learn from this article that being humble is the best act, we can practice in life.

    Jun, 03, 2022
  • Dr Priya Khetan Singhania

    'Convince or Confuse' a very well written article by Sir. It clearly expresses that are there two kind of human existing with same professional qualification. But ego and arrogance shows that we somewhere lack the wisdom that comes with knowledge. Thanx for sharing Sir

    Jun, 03, 2022
  • Varsha Bhuyan

    Again a master piece loaded with lot of experiences ,facts, guide to medical profession and human behaviour ,attitude, personality by our Dean Sir .Dr. professor Gangadhar Sahoo Sir. Sir ,being a teacher, being a philosopher and a thought provoker im overwhelmed with his personal quote i.e "Medical science is neither easy nor difficult it is either made easy or difficult." Whoever has attended his classes ,seminar or discussion have better felt the inner beauty to this simple apprehensive lines. How a teacher like him can create interset and inspire his student with his divine spell. And Sir has got both a divine touch of healer and a preacher . This article may be bit of medico oriented ,it reflects the great sense of humours . Positions,designations can't even change many ,being in a ideal seat one should have attitude of acceptance, patience to listen rather imposing. Attitude of bending ,down to earth is a composer of true intellectual. Sober,simple, clear . This diplomatic situation and humble attitude will set example for professional or social opinion exchange . Its so hurtful and pessimistic that forced inner spirit of literary skill of sir to put up such title as convince or confuse to be better named controversies and consensus. Great art to brief many value guide without breaking the patience of reading ,to go with flow. Creative ,factful, reflective knowldge based experinces. Really blessed As a student , as daughter My good wishes ,prayer before Lord Jagannath

    Jun, 03, 2022
  • Sherin

    This article shows how Dr.Sahoo Sir narrates any event in his own style in a exemplary way.our medical science is one such thing that we learn every day. a doctor has to do any action for the welfare of the patient forgetting their egos and always acknowledge the fellow doctor.thankd Sahoo sir for touching this issue

    Jun, 03, 2022
  • Dr P Rajkumari

    A wonderful review of a typical scenario.... Though we are all successful as doctors, we still have a long way to go as good human beings... Thank you Sir for your excellent write up.

    Jun, 01, 2022
  • Akankshya Arunima

    The article 'Lessons from elders' by Prof. Dr. Gangadhar Sahoo Sir has been written so beautifully. Being a constant reader of postive vibes I can surely say only Sir could convey the lesson so well. Thankful!

    May, 29, 2022
  • Akankshya Arunima

    The article written by Prof. DR. GANGADHAR SAHOO Sir is such an eye opener and true representation of the field of Medicine. Grateful that it has found the correct medium for propagation.

    May, 29, 2022
  • Dr Puspanjali Nayak

    Respected Sir, I highly appreciate your keen observation, bold interpretation & great narration of such a sensitive aspect of a rare happening ! Even though we're all certified doctors, all of us still have a long way to go with learning so it's certainly no news that all of us should help each other out because it's a journey we've all begun with the same motive, to treat everyone and ensure their good health, as assigned by the divine power!

    May, 29, 2022
  • Dr.Smita Panda

    The story "convince &confuse " is a true picture depicting the mind set of high profile doctors who are un aware of the ground reality and always try to show up that they know everything. The suggestions given by the author in the story regarding the behaviour &mind set of the moderator is highly appreciated.we doctors should have an broad outlook to handle such issues.

    May, 29, 2022
  • Nupur Nandi

    Excellent piece of article Sir. It teaches us that humility is so important an art which the said moderator lacks. That is why she will confuse everyone instead of convincing them for betterment! First of all one has to be a good human being, otherwise he or she can not be a good doctor. Your writing skills are gaining heights Sir. Thank you again from core of my heart to produce such an excellent article ????.

    May, 29, 2022
  • Shreyasee Behera

    I went through the article written by our respected Dean Sir. It is an amazing description of the scenario. Thankyou so much Sir for sharing such valuable and informative articles with us.

    May, 29, 2022
  • Dr. Anushna Kar

    The article written by Prof. DR. GANGADHAR SAHOO SIR(DEAN IMS AND SUM HOSPITAL) is an excellent piece of work. I have gained a lot of knowledge from the article. Thank you sir.

    May, 28, 2022
  • Pradyumna kumar Padhi

    A pure example of charismatic writing what i am a fan of reflects in every article of our Respectable Dean sir where the take home message from the article and the what happened next thriller remains till end.The last 2 paragraphs of observation regarding the moderator and delegates shows the clear cut difference between 2 person acquiring same skills but one with Ethics and composure, other with ego and superiority complex mindset. 'BIDYA DADATI BINAYAM' reflects in the delegate where moderator lacks it. lastly the last line revealing the identity of the delegates.Another best article from the vast experience of his lifetime.

    May, 28, 2022
  • Rajashree Behera

    It's really gives the best message...it not only teaches us how to keep calm and patience if someone is pointing our mistake but also it teaches us that in medical science we should always have the heart open to learn and accept things....sir really have explained it so well and also gave the great message...

    May, 27, 2022
  • Prafulla Baral

    A wonderful review & introspection. Kept me absorbed. A typical scenario, but a zestful atypical article out of scratch. It’s creativity which Prof Sahoo has mastered overtime.

    May, 27, 2022

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